Here is me and Roth’s review of the season 4 finale of Fringe “Brave New World” Part 2. Roth really liked it while I had mixed feelings. Where do you stand on it?
- Dennis
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Loved Brave New World part 1, but part 2 felt too explainy and predictable for me. I enjoyed parts of it, but would have been pretty upset if this was the series finale. Thank Bell it's not!
The googly eyed shit was freaky as hell…Ding ding. Thought Peter was gonna puke when Walter was getting the bullet out. The slap Walter gave him was awesome lol.
I feel like Letters of Transit should have appeared after this one. Maybe even as Episode 1 of Season 5. Then Brave New World part 2 would have had a bit more punch and shock to it.
Why are there no female Observers?
If they knew they were getting a 5th season, I think they would have made Letters of Transit the 5th season premiere but since they weren't sure they threw that in just in case?
Dennis
I've gotta agree about Letters of Transit. The way it's turned out this seems rushed and it's kinda blown up in their face. There was some really good parts to the final three episodes but aside from or two things. There was NO tension. Nothing that got me leaning forward on the edge of my seat. And it wasn't because it was boring it's because we knew there were no consequences from this.
Also I agree that Letters of Transit and those events were not part of the original plan. Maybe if the Observers were more in character and came to stop or prevent a broken future then maybe I'd believe them more but this all still seems a little rushed.
Finale itself was OK. Two stand out moments where when Walter fired the gun, which came out of nowhere.
And the other being William Bell getting the idea from Walter.
I know Roth and many others have thought at times "Bastard Walter" I've never quite reached that opinion. From what he was like in Grey Matters and in even Letters of Transit he was a jerk but he never felt like someone to really not like. It was understandable given the situation he was in.
UNTIL NOW. That little revelation has got me worried. We now know what he was afraid of turning into and it's pretty bad and now he's gone back to it in 2036. It's unquestionable now. This is a guy to be afraid of.
Another thing about Bell, he may have a role of sorts to play in s5. He was present for something and he did do something to Olivia.
But after watching this review and remembering what he did to September. I'm seeing some resemblance between William Bell and The Illusive Man from the Mass Effect series. And for those who played ME3 I wouldn't be surprised if a similar plan is concocted by William Bell.
The finale just reflected what they have done to Olivia Dunham since middle season 3.
Olivia Dunham controlled by men:
In season 3 Peter wanted Olivia to be more like RedOlivia, so Olivia smiles more and beggs if Peter wants her back.
In season 4 We had great AmberOlivia, no interest in Peter at all, Jones/Bell inject some cortexaphan, and pronto Olivia turns Blue and falls for Peter, and gives up her Amber life.
Bell and the soulmagnets, rape of Olivia number 1, and Bell who activates her via his female aid, rape of Olivia number 2.
Olivia does not control, but is controlled,
Finally by Walter, who all of the sudden is the best shooter (Nanny needing walter all an act?)
Walter , the guy who abused Olivia, now the hero ?YUK
To much to give Olivia the chance to confront bastards Bell and Walter?
Fringe after 4 seasons:
9999999999 the same walter Poor Walter and Walter and Peter scenes, and the entire Bishop famiy getting the tearjeker scenes attentionseeking scenes that people confuse with great acting.
Olivia Dunham: 0 scenes about her love for her mother, 0 scenes about her father, 0 scenes about her abuse, 1 little scene in 4,22 about her abuse in Jackosnville, etc,
No need to make it that obvious that they only want to write for Noble first and Jackson second,
I did not like Walter season 1, this season I just completely turned off , it was so much look at me acting from Noble, so much writing for Walter, even Olivias cortexaphan storyline he got, and it made me sick.
Josh Jackson can only do one trick, so they sacrificed Anna Torv to do all the hard work.
Anna Torv was the only constant factor, her Oivias were spot on, and Anna was there every second, even without the active storyline, not much writing and horrible lines.
Anna Torv made season 4 for me, brilliant, and who gets all the credit
BTW I hated 419, for many reasons, the 1936 setting is one of them , but most of all how they treated Anna Torv in the most hyped episode.
And I am shocked how little is being said about how Olivia Dunham has been turned into the puppet of Peter, Object of Bell and Walter, Ulitmate Victim, Used and Abused and Violated by men.
So many love the killing of Olivia by Walter, but cried for Astrid.
If Olivia would have done it to Peter or Walter, what then?
I think it is disgusting that nothing is done with the Olivia being abused as a child storyline, not with her stepfather, not with Walter.
John Noble is so afraid not to be liked, that he only wants to play good, funny, poor Walter.
I find it shocking that Walter fans see it as character growth that Walter kills Olivia like that.
So what does it say about Olivia and growth that Abuser Bell still abuses her and Abuser Walter treats her like a dog?
Olivia Dunham must be central in season 5, Active, Hero, Fighter, Strong Independent woman, her own free will, control over her own life,
Active storylines, great writing , that fits an Emmy worthy actress.
A decent seaon finale but it's more a setup for season 5. And yes we got alot of payoffs in this episode and as you will learn in the link that I post below, The final season will be about The Observers and the year 2036.
Executive producers J.H. Wyman and Jeff Pinkner discuss the final season of Fringe
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Fringe-Postmortem-Sea…
I agree with you guys, there are certain elements of the episode that I liked and certain aspects for which I have some reservations. I really liked the scene with Walter and Bell, I especially found the acting of Leonard Nimoy brillant! However, I think that the problem with this and other episodes of this season resides in the story. I have the feeling that the writers didn't have an overall picture of where they wanted to go with the story. It seems to me that they tried to go in one direction and then changed course to go in another direction. The example that Roth mentioned in last week's review with David Robert Jones suddently being killed off of the series after having been such an important villain for so many episodes seemed strange and is a good example of this sudden change of direction in the story.
Let's see what season 5 has in store for us and even though it's going to be a shorter season, I hope that the writers will be able to tell us a story of the Fringe team in the year 2036 that has some depth as opposed to being rushed. They were able to do it for season 1 and 2 and so I believe that they might be able to do it for this final season. On a lighter note, I have a hunch that Leonard Nimoy will return for season 5…
The more I read, it sounds like Leonard Nimoy will be back for final season of Fringe.
Dennis
It would be an awesome way to finish the final season in the same way they started season 3: one episode in the year 2012 and the next in 2036 until midway through when the focus shifts completely to 2036.
The look on both your faces XD
That's when we were doing our impression of the super creepy "talking from dead body" scene.
Dennis
When are the Fringe season 5 reviews being posted?