Here’s me and Roth’s review of the latest crazy episode of Fringe “Letters Of Transit”. What did you think and how do you feel about what the Observers have turned into?
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Something wrong today? you guys look a little bit death in this review xD
We were shooting at 4AM .
hahaha that´s why! The lack of energy is visible. Still, god review… I miss Olive… Maybe Bolivia die not her …
Only 3 episodes left and no new about season 5… please Fox be go to us
Great review guys!
I had very mixed thoughts about this episode. I liked it, for the most part (especially Desmond, see you in the next episode, brother), but it felt very disjointed with the previous seasons. I, too, was reminded of Dollhouse in the sudden jump to a dystopic future. I'm hoping we're filled in on the story that led up to the Observers being evil. This being a J.J. Abrams creation, I'm hoping for some flash-backs/flash-sideways (into alt-verse).
I'm predicting that David Robert Jones ends up being a good guy, working for the "greater good" against the Observers.
Not only "flash-backs/flash-sideways (into alt-verse)", but maybe some flash-forwards, into the world where the Observers are from.
Roth and Dennis,
You both have made one huge assumption. You may be right, this episode might be the future.
But what if it is the past, pre-Walter built-for-Peter-machine?
It says its the future…that's Petersdaughter in 2036.
There you go Roth, thinking linear again.
What if this ‘future’ episode took place in the timeline where Walter built the “Peter Bishop fixes the Universe” machine, thus making it the past?
What do we know about the main one?
There doesn’t appear to be a dual universe, a child between Olivia and Peter is not supposed to happen, the Observers are extremely non-passive.
I could go on and on, you’ve noted some of the differences yourself.
What if this is why Peter must die but simultaneously live to use the machine, over and over again?
Regardless of what timeline this episode took place (the Blue and Red Opening Splash, the Black & White Opening Splash from the 3rd season finale, or the current Orange Opening Splash) the fact remains that it takes place in the year 2036.
So, this episode is in fact the future of the current Orange Opening Splash (and definitely not the Black & White Opening Splash due to the fact that future existed since a bridge between the two universes [Red and Blue] was not created by the Wave Sink Device and of course the Red Opening Splash universe was destroyed) and I say this because of the fact that we see William Bell in the amber.
If you remember, in season 2 William Bell (from Blue Opening Splash universe) said that his doppelganger in the Red Opening Splash universe died as a child and in season 3 in the animated episode (“Lysergic Acid Diethylamide”) the Blue Opening Splash universe completely lost William Bell's consciousness. So this episode couldn't have taken place in any of the previous timelines (aka. universes). Of course that doesn't rule out the possibility that this episode is a completely new timeline from the Orange Opening Splash universe but that's unlikely unless the final showdown with David Robert Jones involves Peter using the Wave Sink Device once again (and I don't see why he would since September told him that he's found his Olivia).
I really enjoyed it. Even though, I could tell that she was their daughter from the start, the scene at the end still had an emotional punch for me. This episode made me what season 5 even more because this is there season 5 plan. Lastly, I think there was a small hint in Season 2 about the observers being evil. I'm not sure which episode it is, but I think someone in the military warns Broyles about them.
I'm mostly mixed on this one. Parts I liked and parts I didn't.
Parts I didn't like.
1: Blew their reveal for Etta. Not Even two seconds into episode I mistook her for Olivia. That one really annoyed me. They made it so obvious by getting an actress that looks like Anna. And then you waste time by dancing around the subject when you could have used that time to reveal more about the world they are in.
2: The Observers. I agree. They should have used a new threat or if you had to use the Observers make sure they were the Observers we knew. There oppression here was comical not frightening.
3: No idea what happened to Other Universe.
4: No Olivia. I'll explain this later.
Parts I did like.
1: Henry Ian Cusick. He's awesome. Not much else to say.
2: I like the questions that were raised. I want to know how the Observers took over. Why William Bell is in the picture and what happened to Olivia.
3: Etta reunites with Peter.
I fucking love this storyline. No idea why but I just do. The storyline in which someone meets their child after some weird time manipulation is just something I find awesome. Even when it's done badly (you know which show I'm talking about here) it still grabs my attention. I just love how these stories often play out and the great character development it offers.
That said… I rarely find it as interesting when involves the father. That's why I'm annoyed that Olivia wasn't in this one. Olivia meeting her grown up daughter is the more interesting story. But it looks as though it won't happen and unfortunately it shouldn't because any stunt pulled to get Olivia and Etta to meet wiill push it.
I love time leaps too but I did find the Observers were acting out of character. What could possibly make them think after studying mankind's history that them taking over one world would be for the greater good of all?
I think it could work if they were somehow infected with human emotions because of extended exposure to us or if it was actually tech that prevented them to be without emotions and that got destroyed. Maybe they are all children or descendants of Jones… either way their behavior in this episode was a bit of a stretch…
I kinda knew Etta was Olivia's daughter and agree with @JaiCSC that a mother/daughter reunion would have been more epic.
After watching this episode I got the sense that this is the final story the writers wanted to tell. Since they shot two endings for the finale (which one will air depends if the show will be renewed or not) I think they included this episode just to have a shot at a TV movie (should they not get renewed) that finishes the Fringe series after the David Robert Jones story.
I felt that the primary focus of this episode is to finally start the process of answering questions about William Bell (even though we've learned a lot about him, he's still a character shrouded in mystery) and the Observers (about whom we know very little) and to leave the audience with a sense of closure about the mysteries and characters of Fringe.
Lastly, here's a few things that stuck out to me in this episode:
1. It's interesting how Peter and Bolivia (Fauxlivia) son was called Henry and this daughter is called Henrietta.
2. The bullet around Henrietta's neck was probably the one that killed Olivia (that seemed pretty obvious in the scenes she touches it and finally reveals it).
3. Is this William Bell from the other universe? Since season 4 starts with two completely new universe where Peter didn't exist past his drowning, is the William Bell from the other universe alive just like Colonel Broyles is?
4. Was September's interference of helping the Fringe Team when the other Observers began to take control lead to their encasement in amber?
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When the promo for this episode aired, I wasn't looking forward to it but I ended up liking it. It was amazing how quickly I cared about the people. It helped to know/guess that Henrietta was Olivia's daughter (I think the writers had to know audience would figure this out quickly) and to have Desmond there. I didn't think this was necessarily any of the universes we've been in, just a possible one. The fact that the Observers were so different was jarring but maybe in this universe they just couldnt observe for so long without becoming like those they were watching. Bell's presence also made me feel like this was a different possible universe. I give them credit for trying something different. I loved the animated episode.
Loved the episode. Trust that if this scenario is revisted then the questions would be answered. This episode was well casted. Georgina Haig rocked as Henrietta. And Henry Cusick was great as Simon. He really built an empathetic character in the short screen time he had available.
And Walter. So ruthless after being cured. That shot with Bell's hand gave me the shivers!
Josh Jackson really nailed that last scene with Georgina. I got a little verklempt I must say. But not nearly as much as I did for 4.20.
As for the Observers's behavior, when the cat is away …..
I found it hilarious that Observers get drunk from drinking water.
Showrunner leaves "Fringe" in final season
""As far as I know, we're just jumping ahead" to 2036, John Noble — who plays Dr. Walter Bishop — told the website. "Walter, Olivia, Astrid and Peter are insurgents, so we know all the dirty tricks that have been played against us. We'll be learning from the past."
quite enjoyable…fuckin' nice
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